Quick Question

[peddler]

Trawling through the various archery internet sites,I came across Easton Powerflight arrows @ £60/doz. Since I am unlikely to ever enter a tournament let alone win one andthearrows are attractively priced, my question is are they suitable for a recurve bow? (68" bow and 40lb). I looked at the Easton web site and they are marketed as hunting arrows. Is there any difference between target and hunting arrows?

[geoffretired]

They seem to be ALL carbon arrows. Some grounds do not allow the use of all carbon arrows as they are almost impossible to find with the metal detector.
They are mainly for hunting, which tends to be for compound bows, so there are only three spines available. That could make it difficult to get a good match to your bow.

[straat]

If you want to spend £60/doz get some Redlines. You can buy Powerflights for just £30.50.

[Detector]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

They seem to be ALL carbon arrows. Some grounds do not allow the use of all carbon arrows as they are almost impossible to find with the metal detector.
They are mainly for hunting, which tends to be for compound bows, so there are only three spines available. That could make it difficult to get a good match to your bow.

The above statement is actually not quite true. As long as the carbon arrow has a metal tip such as the tungstan tip. Then they can be found easilly with a metal detector up to about 4-5 inches under the surface or below the grass level.

We have supplied many over the years for field and target archery clubs and individuals.

As I am new here I wont post our company details as I dont know if that is allowed or not

Marcus

[geoffretired]

Hi Detector, Thanks for that update.
Is it still the case that some grounds do not allow the use of all carbon arrows?
When we sweep for ally arrows, we sweep side to side about 18 inches between sweeps. That usually finds arrows if we cover the correct area. How wide apart could sweeps be with all carbons and normal points?(like the ones mentioned in this thread)
I guess it depends on the detector; but average club detectors, I mean.

[Detector]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

Hi Detector, Thanks for that update.
Is it still the case that some grounds do not allow the use of all carbon arrows?
When we sweep for ally arrows, we sweep side to side about 18 inches between sweeps. That usually finds arrows if we cover the correct area. How wide apart could sweeps be with all carbons and normal points?(like the ones mentioned in this thread)
I guess it depends on the detector; but average club detectors, I mean.

For ally arrows your method is ok! due to length of the arrows but i would slow that down to about 9". When looking for carbon arrows this method would be useless.

You need the maximum coverage of each sweep to find the tungstan tips. So to get this with a metal detector detect at right angles to the flight of the arrow and if possible overlap each sweep of the metal detector. The slower you detect the more you will find!!!!!!

A fast sweep speed and in the direction of flight is very inneficient when looking for carbon arrows

Hope this helps


marcus

PS am I allowed to mention the metal detector shop I work at?

[geoffretired]

Thanks Detector,
I think we are on the same wavelength on this one.
We sweep side to side compared to direction of travel of the arrow. The sweeps are closer together than the arrow length so we must pass over the arrow if we cover the right bit of ground.
Compared to looking for all carbons, the above is quite quick.
When looking for all carbons we use the same side to side sweeps, but reduce the spaces to something much shorter; let's say a couple of inches further forward each time.That takes 9or10 times longer. I might be wrong, but I think some detectors find it difficult to detect a short pile where a long shaft is no problem.
I'm not sure about naming the company you work at. Perhaps send a message to a mod.

[Detector]

Originally Posted by geoffretired

Thanks Detector,
I think we are on the same wavelength on this one.
We sweep side to side compared to direction of travel of the arrow. The sweeps are closer together than the arrow length so we must pass over the arrow if we cover the right bit of ground.
Compared to looking for all carbons, the above is quite quick.
When looking for all carbons we use the same side to side sweeps, but reduce the spaces to something much shorter; let's say a couple of inches further forward each time.That takes 9or10 times longer. I might be wrong, but I think some detectors find it difficult to detect a short pile where a long shaft is no problem.
I'm not sure about naming the company you work at. Perhaps send a message to a mod.

Thats correct which is why you have to go a lot slower for the tips. I have added a link into thee retail section of this web site and our guys have added a reciprical link under the heading of "metal detector at Regton" so if any one needs help or advice please feel free. Advice is always free!!

marcus

[geoffretired]

I feel some advice will be requested, soon. Cheers
Geoff

[Detector]

No problem

Marcus

[Polsonby]

Our club will not allow the use of all-carbon arrows outdoors. Even if your own club does, you may find problems shooting elsewhere with them

[DHBowman]

The above statement is actually not quite true. As long as the carbon arrow has a metal tip such as the tungstan tip. Then they can be found easilly with a metal detector up to about 4-5 inches under the surface or below the grass level.

Yes this is true in my experience as well, but another reason why all carbon arrows are not allow at some grounds is because sometimes and if your very unlucky the arrow and point may not be in the same place, for example if the arrow breaks or shatters on impact. A metal detector wouldn't pick up small carbon shafts or splinters.