UK Coaching Framework

[not dead yet]

Originally Posted by napolienne

Amen - that's precisely the idea.

but when will this happen 2020.

tj's letter is 100% correct. and thats probably why it wasn't printed
the framework in my eyes doesn't and wont. fullfill the criteria. of the coaching mission statement.

and it looks like people are starting to understand where i was coming from 12 months ago....

pete

[Robin the Hood]

Originally Posted by Fan Hir

A good caoching framework is essential to the development of any sport and its participants. However, archery fails to seperate instruction from coaching. Two very different disciplines with different skill requirements. Level 1 coaches are effectively instructors who teach beginners how to shoot a bow safely. Coaches are involved in skill development and can be of benefit to archers of all standards.
FH

I agree with the definition you give. At one time 'Instructors' was the badge held, but under the new system they became Coaches 1 2 3 etc.....
This is why I would be interested in the opinions of established Coaches ie above class 2, as to whether it would be possible to consider a system of attracting more experienced archers to Class 2 and above, by them being considered for Class 1 on a 'Merit System'. By this I mean,
1. Possibly X years experience
2. A proven record in competition
3. Have at least 2 nominations from excisting coaches of Class 3 or above.
The way that Class 1 is going, I think it is on its way to making a longer process out of simplicity and no-one who is shooting seriously will have enough time to spare purely for the first badge.
Otherwise just reading the consistant threads on the subject, has anyone with experience got any ideas how to make the system pull in what we need?....

Paul...

[moo-mop]

Originally Posted by Robin the Hood

by them being considered for Class 1 on a 'Merit System'.

I guess as a former archer who has been a reasonable level hobbyist you would be talking about people in a similar situation to myself.
I know a fair bit about (cough... recurve target) archery, but very little about coaching. I personally want to start to get that experience by helping beginners under supervision (which is all L1 can get you to) not by bypassing it. I think I need the 4 days of seminars plus practice that the L1 course should give me in order to instruct beginners. L1 should allow my still to have some time to shoot but not too seriously (ie I doubt I'd be able to do this and get a 1280 again). To do personal coaching well (again as a hobby) the time involved, I think, does mean you probably really can't be too involved in competitive archery - if you also have a full time job.

[Robin the Hood]

moo-mop Quote:
I guess as a former archer who has been a reasonable level hobbyist you would be talking about people in a similar situation to myself.
I know a fair bit about (cough... recurve target) archery, but very little about coaching. I personally want to start to get that experience by helping beginners under supervision (which is all L1 can get you to) not by bypassing it.

Class 1 is the category where the task is to teach beginners the simple basics of shooting. I believe this is the only category in the Coaching where you guide others to do what you have already practised. Any need for dealing with technical problems then becomes the responsibility of the Class 2 coach. This is why I feel the possibilty of a system being introduced, allowing certain archers to be accepted as Class 1. But it would not have to be too easy otherwise they would not be accredited by all, hence the idea of excisting Coaches having to nominate.
As far as your own experience is concerned, I do think you are more than capable of even running a beginners course. That is basically what Class 1 is. Anything further than that, such as diagnosing problems then become the responsibilities of Coach 2, which is where the need for experience commences..

Paul...

Any attempt to sort the coaching joke out is welcome, trouble is I've got so used to hearing empty words that it's hard to take them seriously anymore

[Robin the Hood]

Originally Posted by John (OSF)

Any attempt to sort the coaching joke out is welcome, trouble is I've got so used to hearing empty words that it's hard to take them seriously anymore

Here! Here!.... ... ... shouldn't laugh really ...

Paul..

[simon m]

"UK coaching framework" is that like the stocks from olden times?.

[not dead yet]

Originally Posted by simon m

"UK coaching framework" is that like the stocks from olden times?.

the stocks actually did what they were built for....

[rohenwto]

Looks like they are after more volunteers. The following is an extract from the KAA website:


"Framework England" have the job of modernising the delivery of coaching in the five English regions; they are looking for Regions to nominate additional volunteers to carry on the work. Please note that this work relates to how coaching is delivered (as opposed to the content of that coaching) so volunteers do not have to be qualified coaches.

If any GNAS member in Kent is interested in taking part in this work, please contact the SCAS secretary, as nominations can only be made via Regions. Although we are not aware of any specific deadline for nominations, the request has been greatly delayed between Framework England and the county, so a degree of urgency is recommended.

We would be grateful if you would also let the KAA secretary know that you have put your name forward for nomination and suggest that you also copy to Ollie Holt at the GNAS office (both of these are taken care of if you use the SCAS secretary link above).

The following description was received from the Framework England group:


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As we develop our World Class Coaching System for archery using The UK Coaching Framework as a guide, we need to expand our team in order to develop the plans and processes necessary for us to keep to the time line of the project.

Framework England draw representation from each of the five regions and have been working hard over the last 15 months to develop the Archer and Coach Development Models and deliver the Coaching Audit 2008, along with other plans that will enable us to move forward into the next stage of delivering the Vision of having “The right coach in the right place at the right time for the archer”.

The work level to achieve our aims will grow over the next few years and in order to keep on track and gain a greater inclusion of the Regions and counties, we need to expand the size of the Framework England group.

We are looking for each regional committee to put forward a total of 3 members of whom 2 will attend each of the quarterly meetings to ensure continuity. All members will need to be involved and assist in the production of plans and documents to support the aims and objectives of the UKCF.

•Role Description:
◦2 year time span, renewal by agreement
◦4 meetings per year at Lilleshall + conference calls
◦Invitation to the Development Conference (March each year)
•Home nation group for implementation of strategy:
◦Framework England act as Interface between Strategy group and regions
◦Individual to act as link co-ordinator with counties in home region
◦Attend regional/local meetings and workshops
◦Develop plans for implementation by contributing to documentation, review and adaptation of documents and processes from other sources and research
◦Test new ideas at a club / county / regional level and help to find best practice
•Skills:
◦Good interpersonal skills
◦Strategic thinker
◦Flexible approach
◦Teamwork

[not dead yet]

reared its head again.

so in kent there's a possible framework.
but i like the bit that people need not be coaches ...

still no idea who does actually learn anything about coaching archers or where their knowledge could possibly come from

hell of a lot of coaches in UK know how to put the idea across. (teach).admin people

but the actual idea is very vague

[grimsby archer]

I like this bit:

Originally Posted by rohenwto

Please note that this work relates to how coaching is delivered (as opposed to the content of that coaching) so volunteers do not have to be qualified coaches.

Kind of suggests a committee of non coaches in charge of telling coaches how to do their jobs

I feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with the direction that coach management is going. Its getting more and more obsessed with paperwork and printing pretty licenses (and getting government funding) and less about actually coaching people.

Scary bit is agreeing with NDY

[Trunkles]

I understand the NCAS reps have been appointed

[TJ Mason]

Originally Posted by grimsby archer

I feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with the direction that coach management is going. Its getting more and more obsessed with paperwork and printing pretty licenses (and getting government funding) and less about actually coaching people.

Yup - in the pursuit of Government money, archery coaching is being skewed towards something Government types can understand. No creativity, no true measures of ability, just grading based on courses and conferences attended. No wonder cycling turned its back on Government funding.

[bkupris]

Originally Posted by TJ Mason

No wonder cycling turned its back on Government funding.

That's interesting, do they rely on corporate funding?

[TJ Mason]

Originally Posted by bkupris

That's interesting, do they rely on corporate funding?

I believe so, yes. They're certainly not Government funded.